Ian Chillag – Protecting Yourself

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This week we talk to Ian Chillag, creator and host of the hilarious and beautiful podcast Everything is Alive. Ian talks with us about some of the defense mechanisms we use to protect ourselves and seeing the kindness behind harsh criticism (aka the vanity of niceness). He also gives us a peek into an audio project he’s working on (a post-apocalyptic public radio pledge drive) and tells us his favorite kinds of podcasts to listen to and make. This was a fun one!

Listen and subscribe to Everything is Alive on the Radiotopia network.

You can find Ian on Instagram and Twitter @ianchillag.

Episode Guest

Ian Chillag

Ian Chillag is a writer and producer working in print, audio, video, and other media. He created the podcast Everything is Alive. His work can be found in McSweeney's Quarterly, the New York Times, NPR, A Public Space, and other places.

Geri Cole – P Is For Perfect, That’s Good Enough For Me

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Folks, we’re not going to lie to you — this week’s guest is a GET. We welcome the wonderful Geri Cole to the PoP Pod studios! Geri is a four-time Emmy award winner (!!!), podcast host, and writer on the beloved children’s series Sesame Street (um…ever heard of it??).

We talk about writing for Cookie Monster vs. writing for Big Bird, the Dos and Don’ts of collaborating with your partner (see: The Perfect Couple’s Guide), and we land on the perfect definition of perfectionism.

You can hear Geri interviewing some of your favorite writers on OnWriting: A Podcast of the Writers Guild of America, East.

Episode Guest

Geri Cole

Geri is a multiple Emmy award winner, podcast host, and writer on the beloved children's series Sesame Street.

Nick Bertozzi – Learning Assertiveness

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We’re back, and boy have we got a corker for you this week! The Perfectionists sit down with Dennis’s old mentor — New York Times bestselling cartoonist and teacher at the School of Visual Arts, Nick Bertozzi! They talk about learning to stay true to yourself as a professional artist, unlearning the habit of people pleasing, projecting your dang voice in the classroom and on the stage, and most importantly assertiveness (when do you have it, when do you not, and how can you learn it?).

Nick’s upcoming graphic novel is called BOMB! (based on a YA novel by Steve Sheinkin) and it’s about how the Soviets stole the secrets of the Manhattan Project to create their own atomic bomb. It’ll be out in Winter of 2023 from Roaring Brook Press.

Episode Guest

Nick Bertozzi

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Nick Bertozzi is a New-York Times Bestselling cartoonist who has written and drawn many graphic novels and has taught Cartooning at the School of Visual Arts since 2003.

Victor Varnado – A Defiant One

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This week the Perfectionists (Ellen and Dennis) talk to stand-up comedian, filmmaker, producer, podcaster, actor, director, and New Yorker cartoonist Victor Varnado (who, he assures us, also wrote all the good parts of the bible).

Our friend Victor is not only a multitalented, cross-medium, cross-platform artist and comedian, he’s also a successful entrepreneur/businessman who empowers others to do the same. A big theme of our conversation was finding ways to work on things you’re truly passionate about and inspired by.

Victor is the host of at least two podcasts: Six Unseemly Questions and Arts Academy. His next podcast is called Wiki Listen. So after you wiki listen to this, go wiki listen to those!

Jonathan Mitchell – Talking Truth

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Strap on your headphones and get ready for this “movie for your ears”—this week we’ve got Jonathan Mitchell, creator and producer of one of our favorite podcasts, The Truth, which just celebrated its tenth year. We get into Jonathan’s history in public radio and the early days of podcasting, experimental electronic music, the process of breaking a Truth episode, and we even get into Jonathan’s new hobby: DIY stop motion animation!

Episode Guest

Jonathan Mitchell

Jonathan Mitchell is the producer of The Truth Podcast, an anthology fiction show that’s celebrating its tenth year. He has been an audio producer for 25 years.

Jamie Rivera – Love the Burn

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This week we welcome our BFF Jamie Rivera to the pod! Jamie’s a performer and teacher at Magnet Theater, as well as an amateur toy photographer. What’s amateur toy photography? Give this episode a listen and find out!

We discuss the challenge of embracing hobbies deemed “juvenile,” the perfect way to receive a compliment, and learning to love the burn of Scotch (and the burn of making art)!

Check out Jamie’s toy photography on Insta: @jamrivfigs, and his tweets @mr_jamriv. Interested in signing up for one of Jamie’s improv classes? Or seeing him perform live? Check out magnettheater.com for both!

Episode Guest

Jamie Rivera

Jamie Rivera is a performer and teacher at the Magnet Theater as well as an amateur toy photographer.

Rob Penty – Minimizing Risk

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This week improviser, storyteller, and writer Rob Penty talks perfectionism and how it’s really about minimizing risk. Then, Rob and the Perfectionists somehow do a “sober drunk history” on psychological experiments. If you’re looking for a fun convo about hypochondria, OCD, Catholicism, and mindfulness meditation, you’ve come to the right place. Folks, if this one don’t have it, you don’t want it!

You can find Rob performing monthly on The Little Big Show at the Magnet Theater. Read his writing at www.actuallyitsrobpentydotorg.com. Rob’s ebook was designed by Carly Monardo and laid out by Nick Jaramillo.

Episode Guest

Rob Penty

Rob Penty
Rob Penty is an improviser, storyteller and writer from Brooklyn.

Jessica Coyle and Richard Krysztoforski – Celebrate Little Milestones

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We’re back, baby!!! Join us as we kick off Season 2 with our friends Jessica and Richard, hosts of our sister podcast “Made Up Talk Show” (also on the Let’s Hear It Network). We discuss the journey of starting a podcast from scratch and how to deal with the successes and failures along the way. We also talk ADHD and rejection-sensitive dysphoria. Let’s get into it!

Episode Guests

Jessica Coyle

Jessica Coyle
Jessica Coyle is an ESL professional, improviser, world traveler, and servant to guinea pigs.

Richard Krysztoforski

Richard Krysztoforski
Richard is an internationally trained improviser, comedian, and professional development expert. His creative projects are focused around building community and rejuvenating outdated modes of creation. Most recently he founded the Let’s Hear It Network, an independent artist-owned podcast network (the network Pursuit of Perfectness is part of!). You can find out more about him at rjk.nyc.

BONUS Episode: Made Up Talk Show

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Hold on to your hats, folks—it’s a crossover! This week, as a special BONUS, the PoP Pod crew is thrilled to present this episode of Made Up Talk Show, guest starring our very own Ellen Matthews and Dennis Pacheco!

Made Up Talk Show is a comedy improv podcast on the Let’s Hear It Network (the very network Pursuit of Perfectness is a part of!) in which guests bring in little known (i.e., completely fictional) podcasts. This week Ellen and Dennis bring in an obscure (again, completely made up) talk show about unconventional couples called How Did These Get Met?

The Perfectionists had a blast improvising wild characters and situations with the hilarious Jessica Coyle and Richard Krysztoforski. We hope you enjoy it! And hey, check out Made Up Talk Show!

Episode Guests

Jessica Coyle

Jessica Coyle
Jessica Coyle is an ESL professional, improviser, world traveler, and servant to guinea pigs.

Richard Krysztoforski

Richard Krysztoforski
Richard is an internationally trained improviser, comedian, and professional development expert. His creative projects are focused around building community and rejuvenating outdated modes of creation. Most recently he founded the Let’s Hear It Network, an independent artist-owned podcast network (the network Pursuit of Perfectness is part of!). You can find out more about him at rjk.nyc.

Season 1 Finale – Leave Bill Buckner Alone!

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What was it all about? Dennis and Ellen take a fond look back at Season 1 episode by episode and prepare to come roaring back in just three little weeks for an even bigger Season 2. Join us, won’t you?