Working Out

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The Pursuit of Perfectness
Working Out
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Exercise. It’s tough to get out there and do it sometimes! And if you’re a perfectionist who tends to be hard on yourself, it’s even harder. What’s a perfectionist to do? Ellen and Dennis share their tips, strategies, and strained metaphors to help you get back on the hamster wheel. Plus, listener responses!

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Episode Guests

Dennis Pacheco

Dennis Pacheco is an improviser, actor, teacher, writer, director, and podcaster.

Ellen Matthews

Ellen is a performer and teacher of improv at Magnet Theater in NYC, and co-host of the Let's Hear It Network Podcast, "The Pursuit of Perfectness".