The Perfect Way to Do Small Talk

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The Pursuit of Perfectness
The Perfect Way to Do Small Talk
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The Pursuers (Ellen and Dennis, naturally) have a big conversation about small talk. And we hear from you, the listeners–I mean we really hear from you–in our first ever listener voicemail segment!

Episode Guests

Dennis Pacheco

Dennis Pacheco is an improviser, actor, teacher, writer, director, and podcaster.

Ellen Matthews

Ellen is a performer and teacher of improv at Magnet Theater in NYC, and co-host of the Let's Hear It Network Podcast, "The Pursuit of Perfectness".