Amanda Rothman – Therapy, Shame, and Kung Fu Movies

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The Pursuit of Perfectness
Amanda Rothman - Therapy, Shame, and Kung Fu Movies
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This week the wonderful Amanda Rothman joins Ellen and Dennis to talk drama therapy, our need to take care of others (including, sometimes, our therapists), and how shame is a driving force behind perfectionism. They also go off on a tangent about The Matrix for … way? … too long? Is this officially a kung fu movie review podcast now? Maybe!

You can find Amanda Rothman on Psychology Today. Hire her!